NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Miku the Based** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:54 am

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:
Caribbean Confederation wrote:The only time I've seen a navy be really really expanded upon is in FT nations, and even then they're really more of a dick measuring contest than anything resembling legitimate worldbuilding. "Yeah, I have a 150km long ship the size of a small city that can blow up a planet with one reasonably-charged blast"

>150km long ship

boring and impractical, send a swarm of 10 million space drones instead to bomb everything

> using drones
> not using impermeable self replicating microbots to consume planets

by **Caribbean Confederation** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:22 am

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:
Caribbean Confederation wrote:The only time I've seen a navy be really really expanded upon is in FT nations, and even then they're really more of a dick measuring contest than anything resembling legitimate worldbuilding. "Yeah, I have a 150km long ship the size of a small city that can blow up a planet with one reasonably-charged blast"

>150km long ship

boring and impractical, send a swarm of 10 million space drones instead to bomb everything

Ok but which is a better way to win a dick-measuring contest, as pretty much every single naval arms race in human history has been: Big, flashy and overly cost-inefficient ships you can make giant propaganda of, or something useful?

by **Brettenwald** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:34 am

Caribbean Confederation wrote:
Nouvelle-Floride wrote:
>150km long ship

boring and impractical, send a swarm of 10 million space drones instead to bomb everything 8)

Ok but which is a better way to win a dick-measuring contest, as pretty much every single naval arms race in human history has been: Big, flashy and overly cost-inefficient ships you can make giant propaganda of, or something useful?

¿Porque no los dos?

by **Dayganistan** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:25 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:Nations having long in depth factbooks on army and air force but giving the navy a small sub-section

Navies really get neglected on NS

This is me but I avoid due to less knowledge of how modern naval combat works vs modern ground or aerial combat. All I know of modern naval combat is "ships and aircraft lob missiles at each other while ships attempt to shoot down missiles with CIWS." I might fill in the navy section of my military factbook, which currently only describes the naval infantry, one day.

12 March 2022

Caribbean Confederation wrote:
Nouvelle-Floride wrote:
>150km long ship

boring and impractical, send a swarm of 10 million space drones instead to bomb everything

Ok but which is a better way to win a dick-measuring contest, as pretty much every single naval arms race in human history has been: Big, flashy and overly cost-inefficient ships you can make giant propaganda of, or something useful?

Literally measure them and accurately record the results, then place them on a line graph. Do multiple measurements to account for possible errors.

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:04 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Caribbean Confederation wrote:Ok but which is a better way to win a dick-measuring contest, as pretty much every single naval arms race in human history has been: Big, flashy and overly cost-inefficient ships you can make giant propaganda of, or something useful?

Literally measure them and accurately record the results, then place them on a line graph. Do multiple measurements to account for possible errors.

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12 March 2022

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Literally measure them and accurately record the results, then place them on a line graph. Do multiple measurements to account for possible errors.

( ͡° _ʖ ͡°)

Is...is that not the most objective and accurate way to do it?

by **Khoronzon** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:12 pm

it's not just the line going up ;}

by **South Reinkalistan** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:13 pm

this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

12 March 2022

South Reinkalistan wrote:this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

I'M NOT HORNI, I'M JUST PROPOSING THE MOST SCIENTIFIC WAY TO DO A MEASURING CONTEST.

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:23 pm

Khoronzon wrote:it's not just the line going up ;}

~~_{sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ's ʀɪsɪɴɢ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ's ɴᴏᴛ ᴍʏ ᴘʀᴏғɪᴛ ᴍᴀʀɢɪɴs}~~

South Reinkalistan wrote:this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

smhing my head.

12 March 2022

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Khoronzon wrote:it's not just the line going up ;}

~~_{sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ's ʀɪsɪɴɢ, ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ's ɴᴏᴛ ᴍʏ ᴘʀᴏғɪᴛ ᴍᴀʀɢɪɴs}~~

South Reinkalistan wrote:this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

smhing my head.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

by **Polish Prussian Commonwealth** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:51 pm

>realistic FT
boring, just bring MT into FT and larp out your wildest fulda gap fantasies, but with lasers and railguns.

by **Aureumterra III** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:53 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote:this chat has just gone full sharifistan. smh you lot.

by **Synne Industries** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:05 pm

society

by **Aureumterra III** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:07 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:

I can't fucking take it. I see an image of a random sphere posted and then I see it, I fucking see it. "Oh that looks kinda like the eyeroll smilie" it started as. That's funny, that's a cool reference. But I kept going, I'd see a bottle cap that looked like eyeroll, I'd see an animated bouncy ball that looked like eyeroll, I'd see a candle that looked like eyeroll. And every time I'd burst into an insane, breath deprived laugh staring at the image as the word ran through my head. It's torment, psychological torture, I am being conditioned to laugh maniacly any time I see a pair of dots on a yellow circle. I can't fucking live like this... I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't! And don't get me fucking started on the words! I'll never hear the word "sarcasm" again without thinking of . Someone does something stupid and I can't say anything other than ":roll:." I could watch a man murder everyone I love and all I would be able to say is ":roll: " and laugh like a fucking insane person. And the word "eye" is ruined. The phrase "eye roll" is ruined. I can't live anymore. Eyeroll has destroyed my fucking life. I want to roll myself out of this plane of existence. MAKE IT STOP!

by **South Reinkalistan** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:12 pm

by **The Vessels Resurgent** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:13 pm

Nations that reemerge after vanishing for years at a time.
I'm guilty of this myself, My first nation was United Ardahaminia in 2017. My most recent nation before this was Altion, which I left after N-Day 2020.

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:18 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:

i should have seen this coming and yet i didn't.

South Reinkalistan wrote:
(Image)

by **Adad Civilization** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:26 pm

~~This isn't supposed to be spam, mods. I am just joking about emojis, pls no ban.~~

by **The Troas Sector** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:38 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:>realistic FT
boring, just bring MT into FT and larp out your wildest fulda gap fantasies, but with lasers and railguns.

What if we just do it with T-72s and AK-74s? No need to go full ape when you can just get 80s aesthetics and have a fun Cold War experience.

by **Yorokun** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:25 pm

One common NS Cliche is as follows: the undeclared alternate. A nation that is an alt, and is very clearly an alt, and many people put forward often accurate suspicions towards what exactly it is an alt of, but if is never officially confirmed as an alt until directly called out on it and sometimes not even then.

by **Victorious Decepticons** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:45 pm

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:
Caribbean Confederation wrote:The only time I've seen a navy be really really expanded upon is in FT nations, and even then they're really more of a dick measuring contest than anything resembling legitimate worldbuilding. "Yeah, I have a 150km long ship the size of a small city that can blow up a planet with one reasonably-charged blast"

>150km long ship

boring and impractical, send a swarm of 10 million space drones instead to bomb everything

Decepticon Military and the Decepticon Raider Front say "hi!"

We also say, why use non-sapient drones whose patterns can be figured out, when you can use a billion sapient, space-worthy, transforming war robots with energy blasters instead?

The Troas Sector wrote:Another sub-cliche are space nations with no water navies even if they are essential to protect the waterways between regions from even basic pirates or criminals.

1. Victorious Decepticons' home world has no bodies of water on the surface. Only a few underground reservoirs.

2. On other planets, it's easier to just fly by and strafe anything on the water with energy-blaster fire. Some of us can even swim if it's actually needed. Sea-ships are way too limited in their capabilities. They don't even transform!

2a. Who cares about the water anyway? It's pretty irrelevant when we fly in from space and just go wherever we want from there. A defending planet could have a huge sea navy, and it'd be about as useful against us as a bedsheet in a hurricane. We typically just ignore defending navies altogether, since they're so easy to stay out of range of. If they're too pesty, see Main Point #2: We'll fly over and blast 'em.

3. In any case, WE'RE the pirates. What do you think we're doing on these watery worlds, anyway? If we haven't taken over, we're there to raid the place. If we HAVE taken over, we're there to raid it in a more orderly fashion. But we're always there to raid it. Biological worlds are only worth our attention if they have some resources worth taking and/or some slaves that we can press into service doing the labor involved.

by **Novostia** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:30 pm

Not sure if someone already pointed it out but I’m too lazy to check
Overly optimistic nations like ValZ and Nakena for some reason annoy me, call me a nihilist but I don’t like being overly positive, I think it’s kind of Naive that you think everyone can get along and achieve permanent world peace

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